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“hold off, Is it a Date?” Podcast Episode 209: Bottoming with Chingy | Autostraddle

Why don’t we earn some sound when it comes to bottoms inside your home! (It really is myself, the underside at home.) Bottom community has grown to become very something™ using the internet lately! But what does it truly mean are a bottom? Why gets the tradition decided bottoming is just getting worried to ask for what you prefer? And how does a person go about choosing when they like bottoming?!

With all these concerns rattling around our thoughts, demanding responses, Drew and that I understood there clearly was only 1 individual we can easily head to for a curved, passionate conversation about bottoming: The Gay Chingy AKA Chingy Nea, AKA The Bottom Supreme. Chingy is one of the best folks i understand creating and tweeting these days, so when a bottom my self, Im honored to phone the woman my chief. Chingy allows us to tease away what it method for be a bottom, precisely why she detests “smol bean” bottom part culture, the human body as opening, plus body as

whole

. Really a very stunning conversation, if I do say so my self! Please realize i know that we say “gorgeous” approximately three thousand occasions this occurrence, I am also pursuing help for my problem. (the problem is actually talking like 57 yr old white gay guy.)

And! Recently’s online game entails me speculating if difficult plots Drew defines are part of a movie or a dream she had circa 2006. It is hard!


SHOW NOTES

+ Study Chingy’s
Bottom Manifesto
, follow the woman
on Twitter
and
IG
!

+Here is a summary of the movies that received utilized in the woman video game:


  • The Seventh Seal

    (1937)

  • Bringing Up Baby

    (1938)


  • Pierrot le Fou


    (1965)

  • Ebony Swan

    (2010)

+Watch Anna Faris perform some most readily useful work of her profession in

Smiley Face!


+Let

Shohreh Aghdashloo chat one to rest while dressed as Chrisjen


Avasarala


from

The Expanse

since you need that.


+Cindy Wilson for the B52s is very hot and honestly? “Love Shack” still whips!


+
Robert Mitchum
, stone-cold fox.



EPISODE


Chingy

: I’ve only already been bottoming since I have was, I don’t know, dating back I can keep in mind.


Drew

: Cue Rags to wealth from

Goodfellas.


Chingy

: As far back as I’m able to keep in mind, i desired to end up being a base, no, but particular

[intro plays]


Drew

: Hi, I Am Drew.


Christina

: I’m Christina.


Drew

: Thank you for visiting

Hold off, Is This a night out together

?


Christina

:

Hold off, So Is This a romantic date?

is actually an Autostraddle podcast specialized in one, the actual only real the largest question of one’s times: hold off, So is this a Date?


Drew

: And, wow, i truly merely froze upwards indeed there.


Christina

: I was like, oh shit, I became designed to say something! [laughs]


Drew

: I’m really quick with the banter, my personal head merely… The truth is that I happened to be checking out over my video game notes, which we’re not at but because we still need to present our selves. So, I’m going to make an effort to stay focused on one job at any given time.


Christina

: Focus up!


Drew

: i am Drew Gregory, Im a writer for Autostraddle, and a filmmaker, and a trans woman.


Christina

: Hi, i’m called Christina Tucker, forgot my personal last title for a hot minute, no big deal. I’m in addition an author at Autostraddle also spots on the web, a podcaster, a gay black girl. That is form of it, dog, which is myself.


Drew

: I like it. Okay, now we-


Christina

: today the video game.


Drew

: are we able to play the online game?


Christina

: Can we get right to the online game? I can inform you’re thrilled, I can reveal’re merely shaking.


Drew

: So, i am keeping an aspiration journal since 2007, while the premise within this game is-


Christina

: I did not understand this in regards to you!


Drew

: Yes, it isn’t as updated now, we always write-down all my personal goals now it is only once some thing really sticks. But, the assumption for this online game is actually, am I explaining the storyline of an aspiration I experienced as I had been a teenager, or are I describing the story of a movie that I appreciated once I had been an adolescent?


Christina

: Oh kid, ok.


Drew

: very, the way in which it will probably get is we’ll usually describe it as a dream plus initial person. Thus, whether or not it ended up being

Star Wars,

I’d end up like, I’m in room and I’m fighting as an element of a rebellion, so there’s a wicked  guy who is putting on a black robot fit and it also works out he’s my father. That is the way I’ll describe it, how we explain desires, but sometimes it is a dream, sometimes it’ll end up being from a film. Ready?


Christina

: I’m one thing, I’m not sure that I’m ready, but let’s stone. Let’s see what i will do here.


Drew

: Okay, i am on a beach and that I see this strange guy dressed in black. He informs me that he’s Death therefore can play a casino game to decide basically live or if perhaps the guy requires me personally. I find a way to get away, but every where I go, everyone is unwell and I also feel just like dying remains after me.The only pleased part occurs when I meet a theater troupe and they’re a lot of enjoyment.


Christina

: This,In my opinion, is actually a dream.


Drew

: this could be Ingmar Bergman’s

The Seventh Seal

from 1957.


Christina

: that is going to be a proper gotcha on CT’s classic movie information, because everything I know that Drew, in your adolescence, was not carrying out was actually enjoying films that i will accept. At this time, i am sorts of wanting that I’ve seen not one of them. I believe that’ll be more pleasurable in my situation.


Drew

: The second one, I’m ending up in my family several Italian US gangsters. One of the gangsters demands that I give more than some money, but my children and I was able to break free. We run away through all this arctic terrain, on your way we satisfy an actress and relate with the girl. We result in a suburb. In my opinion we will start another life collectively until she takes me to a large mansion, and that I understand it is one of the gangster. It had been all a trap, the gangster shows up and there’s a confrontation. I kill him, the dream finishes using the celebrity executing a musical quantity.


Christina

: Is this a film?


Drew

: This would be an aspiration I’d in 2008.


Christina

: Okay, wow. Boy, yeah, i assume i must understand that it is 2000, it is old school Drew mind. That’s what I have to recall.


Drew

: Also like, just what films had been we viewing at the time and just how much did that effect my personal goals?


Christina

: Well, yeah, plainly a lot!


Drew

: a great fact is that I became in fact, i did not consist of this simply because I imagined this would have out, but the gangster was actually Tony Soprano because I became enjoying

The Sopranos

in 2008. Very, which is an enjoyable small reality. Okay, next one, You will find an essential project, but this hot woman appears and starts distracting me personally. I would like to be together with her, but In addition really should get my work completed, and so I inform their to go away. She keeps soon after me. All of a sudden, a leopard looks in my own place and I need spend rest of the fantasy trying to catch the leopard. I’m nonetheless actually stressed, We never complete my work, but at the least the girl is actually hot.


Christina

: This has is an aspiration you have, it’s to-be a Drew dream.


Drew

: It Is Howard Hawks’

Mentioning Kid

from 1938.


Christina

: No, but that is a dream you have, that is the most Drew fantasy I ever heard. Now at this stage, i am simply will be spinning flick background, to suit my personal whims.


Drew

: Great, I like that. Okay, i am at a party and that I you should not really like anybody there. Ultimately, I see this woman, we used to have a crush on and we choose leave collectively. We go to her house, however they are chased off through this set of guys that trying to kill the woman. We wind up on a beach therefore appears like we’re going to end up being okay up until the males find us. She ends up getting into this additional man, and so I simply take cartoonish dynamite and decide to blow myself personally up


Christina

: Film.


Drew

: this can be! This might be Jean Luc Goddard’s

Pierrot ce Fou

, from 1965.


Christina

: never have viewed, but that appears like a ding dang movie in my opinion.


Drew

: Great, I love it. There’s a narration describing a strange boat like construction that’s impractical to destroy. I am going on a retreat around the design, the retreat is sort of movie theater connected, sort of spiritual. I’ve a crush about girl during the escape, but this lady has a boyfriend. Amid the shows and traditions, there’s a lot of drama between me personally this girl along with her boyfriend, it finishes with me by yourself. There has been a sequence exposing that watercraft design is impossible to damage because a mechanical arm fixes it in night.


Christina

: that might be something in many methods, i will say film again, why-not?


Drew

: it really is an aspiration from 2011, that did have narration from another person, you realize, it happens!


Christina

: this is actually good promo for an aspiration diary, because i’m like it might possibly be enjoyable easily could keep in mind my goals in this manner.


Drew

: no one likes whenever you describe your own desires to them. I actually do though, and that I’m your own friend, if you like to write down your own dreams and let me know, i might love to hear about them.


Christina

: Okay, that is really nice to hear.


Drew

: You will find two a lot more.


Christina

: Okay.


Drew

: I’m in an attractive yard with a group of buddies, we-all be seemingly waking up from being drugged. We are compelled to shower in an acid that drains pigment and we turn out to be golden-haired and blue-eyed. The people in charge start teaching you to kill, it turns out this one will be run by a crazy dictator, we resist obtaining entirely brainwashed. There’s this girl truth be told there You will find a crush on and I also persuade this lady to leave with me, while escaping I have recorded and slain, however the lady will get out. Whenever she simply leaves the jail, she realizes we are in a forest so there’s nowhere commit.


Christina

: Film.


Drew

: that might be one fantasy in my dream journal from, we mentioned, “2007.” Is in reality 2006.


Christina

: Wow.


Drew

: i thought it had been fascinating that we perish during the dream, nevertheless the other person goes on on. Nevertheless now, absolutely some unusual gender material taking place there, and that I’m probably need to consider any particular one for some time.


Christina

: surely accomplish that.


Drew

: Okay, i’ve an additional.


Christina

: Okay.


Drew

: i have been given the possible opportunity to be a ballerina, my mother claims I won’t manage to get it done. There’s this different girl during the program exactly who I think is actually hot, but I’m troubled she is going to change myself. I’m having difficulties in rehearsal, but-end upwards leaving utilizing the lady, we hook up. It is hot, but I feel me losing control, we go back to the dancing program. My body seems to be morphing into something different, I’m stressed that I’m going to damage.


Christina

: this is exactly a film.


Drew

: So,

Dark Swan

.


Christina

: Yes, that will be

Dark Swan

, undoubtedly.


Drew

: Have you ever seen

Black Swan

? That has been one I thought you’ve observed.


Christina

: I have seen

Black Swan

, I… Fun fact, I proceeded a romantic date with a guy observe

Ebony Swan

.


Drew

: Wow.


Christina

: Just direct circumstances used to do.


Drew

: that which was that like?


Christina

: crazy, it absolutely was strange.


Drew

: Did you such as the motion picture? Performed he such as the film?


Christina

: i do believe, I got currently viewed it, i believe I became love, “Why don’t we go notice it again.” I believe, I happened to be extremely pro

Black Swan,

and for right heterosexual factors, truly.


Drew

: Sure, okay.


Christina

: And, he was like, “that has been strange.” And that I ended up being love, “Oh well, we’re not planning still go out.”


Drew

: Wow, really If only him the best, I’m hoping he is somewhere succeeding. Thanks a lot for playing this video game with me.


Christina

: Wow, I’m therefore pleased we moved two for however numerous we performed thereon.


Drew

: maybe not terrible.


Christina

: Not bad.


Drew

: You did much better than Elise did whenever I wanted to see if this was an operating video game that may operate, and she ended up being my personal guinea pig. Thus, she only got one right.


Christina

: Fair sufficient.


Drew

: Should we proceed to the major topic from the few days?


Christina

: Let’s get into it, let us fully grasp this special guest in.


Drew

: Well, i do want to 1st point out that our very own main topic associated with week is actually bottoming, so we could simply have one extremely special visitor.


Christina

: It really is only 1 person.


Drew

: Could you please introduce yourself?


Chingy

: Hi, i am Chingy Nea, otherwise known as The Gay Chingy. I am an author, Filmmaker, and gasian fabric dyke muppet. I’m in addition The usa’s first base.


Christina

: Yes, i do believe when we were talking about topics and in addition we’re like, “we can easily mention bottoming and there’s literally only one person we could have from the pod to achieve this, there is one individual who is fairly practically the Supreme.”


Chingy

: Thank you for identifying, it feels very good having your own greatness recognized, thank-you


Christina

: Yes, and you’ve done great work, and here we’re recognizing it.


Drew

: I want to understand once you feel just like you became The united states’s biggest base. Whenever was that a word and a label and an identity that you really conducted onto?


Chingy

: Well, therefore I typically only state, “i am The Bottom Supreme.” Because, whom cares about The united states?


Drew

: Sure.


Christina

: reasonable adequate.


Chingy

: Yeah, i believe that i really was effective in bottoming, but in 2017 or something like that, I visited a play celebration which was just for fem top sadists conquering myself up for six to seven several hours right, and it also was just me personally, and I was actually like, “Oh, i am the greatest which is actually ever already been.” After which, i believe after that, i recently held escalating and being, wow, I’m therefore fun to look at. Wow, I’m very engaging as a bottom, this might be wow, everybody just who reaches peak me is indeed fortunate. And, it really went following that, I think, immediately after which we wrote an article labeled as i am a far greater Bottom versus You. Here’s Exactly Why. It actually was types of a manifesto, it actually was a bottom manifesto.


Christina

: certainly, can verify.


Chingy

: And, lots of people have said, “its altered the way they have a look at sex.” And, i prefer that a lot. It is the one article to my website that I written indeed there. I have created at

Vice

,

Teen Vogue

,

Vulture

—

Autostraddle

was 1st spot I composed, really. But yeah, that is the one blog site to my site, when you need to look it over.


Christina

: I like a strong brand name, i enjoy once you understand a brandname, and that I think’s actually attractive, only, brand management of a bottomy yourself. In my opinion, that is truly breathtaking to see.


Chingy

: thanks, i obtained my personal first authorship chance at

Autostraddle

because I became authoring becoming a base, and being poly, being really strong into being a fabric dyke. And since after that, I started to talk about a bunch of other stuff, but being bottom part great only sort of will be the one through distinctive line of every thing.


Christina

: Yes.


Drew

: I also feel like you’re an extremely effective bottom as well as in how you come up with, and talk about, and that I presume experience bottoming that you are really productive. Whereas, In my opinion there are plenty of the queer community, perhaps, particularly the lesbian neighborhood, that maybe thinks of bottoming as… I’m not sure-


Chingy:

Passivity

.


Christina

: Mm-hmm

(Affirmative)

.


Drew

: Yeah.


Chingy

: Yeah, we typically declare that there is way less bottoms than folks believe tend to be soles. I believe there’s an improvement between becoming a bottom and just being unsure of or requesting what you want. In my opinion those are a couple of entirely different things that individuals conflate.


Christina

: I would need to concur, I additionally believe the way that you explore bottoming is actually, after all, let us just state it, a great deal much less irritating as compared to method more and more people mention becoming a base or determine with bottom society. Because, i really do think that what a lot of people are saying clearly or non clearly is simply, Im sluggish and do not proper care to-do any kind of motion, activity, et-cetera, I would like situations completed to myself. And, easily need certainly to look for that call at in any manner, that affects my feelings. And, you happen to be brilliant and thus powerful at becoming, these represent the points that I want, bring these to me and I also will rock and roll your world. Which gorgeous for me.


Chingy

: thank-you, i am talking about, that’s what you have to do become proficient at just something, you must put yourself on the market and check out while making errors and get hurt slightly, and, I’m not sure, learn from it.


Christina

: I think which is an effective message, frankly.


Chingy

: i have simply already been bottoming since I had been, I don’t know, dating back I’m able to remember. [laughs]


Drew

: Cue “Rags to Riches” from

Goodfellas

.


Chingy

: Yeah, dating back I am able to bear in mind, i wanted to be a bottom. No, but style of, as I was actually 13 or 14, I happened to be already considering BDSM web pages and lesbian SADOMASOCHISM web sites. Thus, I happened to ben’t under any delusions in what I became pertaining to, I became having ladies I dated in high-school choke me around, I understood the things I wished. And thus, that degree of consciousness has just given me quite a while to know what i would like and figure out how to obtain it.


Christina

: Gorgeous, received, give me how you feel on bottoming.


Drew

: Well, I’m in fact really thrilled to share this because I feel like in 2019 {when I|as I|while
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